Not defending, but this is a member of BORTAC, not ICE; this is not your weekend warrior looking for a paycheck. These guys have extensive training, his finger was consciously on the trigger.
I hate admitting it, but this is what happens when macho aesthetics replace real training.. fragile egos handed weapons, told they are heroes, and nobody is shocked when restraint never shows up.
I believe he shot this man a moment later. I know they unloaded one of these things directly in someone's face. I'm just not sure if it was this person or someone else..
Grabbed? or tried to push out of his face after the officer pointed it at him at point blank? I can't find the clip right now, but I'm guessing it's the latter, because bro looks terrified.
Just watched a vid from an alternate viewpoint, you're right this pic is from after. As the offiicer pushed him this guy reached and grabbed onto the straps hanging the gun, and didnt let go, so the officer ripped it out his hand and shot him. The gun was aimed downwards originally.
That grip says intention, not accident.. finger ready, posture locked, and the lie is pretending this is crowd control instead of quiet permission to hurt people.
LEOs are generally taught trigger discipline, but then treated like it doesn't matter. It's also why I never trust 'a good guy with a gun', there is no legal requirement for you to be benevolent or humane to legally carry a firearm.
*also, you can learn all the trigger discipline in the world, but when their occupation lets them shoot people on a whim, a lot of people drop the charade about it. This is why I cringe when people try and hit a tragedy like this with 'a RESPONSIBLE gun owner would never do this', this man got shot, idgaf about anyone's qualms with 'the shooter makes responsible legal gun owners look bad', every shooting is going to make gun owners look bad, that's just human perception, it won't change and it shouldn't change.
Most gun owners that wouldn't do this? It has nothing to do with their formal training and everything to do with their character as a human being. Firearms courses don't exactly give merit for that.
This is the most Reddit comment ever. My guy, the dude signed up specifically to maim and kill, he does not give a single shit about trigger discipline.
No, he wasn't. He had thrown a snowball at them earlier and was being chased around someone's yard. The BORTAC guy here eventually cornered him, and after a brief shouting match unloaded the canister in his face at point blank range.
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His hand is on the strap, but he's not pulling on it at all. Bad move, but hardly, as you alphabet boy bootlickers are trying to argue, is he trying to grab the gun. Nor does he shove or 'push up against' BORTAC, all the shoving and pushing is done to him.
Maybe the group who are not law enforcement but immigration officers, who just shot an unarmed civilian shouldn't be in the area with weapons, maybe local law enforcement should be allowed to police the communities they live in.
They absolutely do have the intention of just hurting people and terrorizing them. That's the MO, hire a bunch of assholes into ICE, give minimal training and let them use as much force as they want with no repercussions, people eventually get tired of being abused and getting disappeared, they riot, and then Trump and fox can film the riots and say that's why ICE and the military is there, as if they didn't cause it in the first place, and they can send even more assholes with qualified immunity to do whatever they want
I’m pretty sure he’s practicing trigger discipline, it doesn’t look like the tip of his finger is overlapping the trooper, it looks like we’re seeing it through the guard.
But who cares? Trigger discipline is about preventing accidents. These aren’t accidents.
What do you mean discipline ? That ... terrorist was obviously armed and dangerous , this proud American had no other but to defend his country and his life ! I mean have you seen this ... illegal emigrant ? He has 2 arms ! And he probably entered the safe zone of that brave soldier by refusing to walk backward because he was ... probably afraid of being shot in the back ... or something...
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u/TachiH 2d ago
Did nobody teach the guy with the 40mm launcher trigger discipline? It's as if he has every intention of hurting people....